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Author Message   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Friday, August 03, 2007 - 8:51 pm:    I was reading the book (Without You the tragic story of Badfinger) and found this pic of Joey Molland and Tom Evans in 1979. Here Joey is playing what looks like a 2617. He was always a Gibson man but here he is with the Ibanez.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 7:26 am:    Freak, Badfinger was a decent band. I liked them alot. I think 2 guys in the band hung themselves which alot of folks don't know. Too bad. They sure had everything going for them, good vocals, good players, good tunes,the Beatles helping them. They played at the concert for Bangladesh. 2 guys in the same band hanging themselves is a horrible outcome to such a decent band. Nice guitar though.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 7:56 am:    Yeah Bob it was tragic. THat was over being ripped off for there money. even though they wrote Without You which became a number 1 for Harry Nilson and later on Mariah Carey these guys at the time did't see a penny of that money because it was frozen by a lawsuit. At the time of this photo Joey was laying carpet in California and Tommy(who hung himself in the earley 80's) was a plumber. The dude on the drums with fake Rod Stewart haircut was a fan who had knocked on Joey;s door in California and persuaded him to start again at music. Which he did and asked Tommy to join. They were signed to Electra but that album Airwaves had been poorly produced and were nothing like the demos that were ••• kicking. So when it was released it fell off the charts quick and they were dropped from the label. The money at the time of the suicides would have amounted to around 60,000 dollars a year. The surviving family memberes just started recieving these royalties in 2002 I believe. It is a fine example of how managment can and will screw vulnerable artists out of millions.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 9:46 am:    Really sad story. I liked the Badfinger sound. I was having a good day until now. six   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 10:31 am:    Freak, I knew it was over the money and their inability to obtain it. I didn't know it was tied up in a lawsuit though. I did know they never received anything for their efforts. They were extremely talented individuals and from what I hear they were genuinely decent fellows. I do not agree with how they reacted to the situation. There's always tomorrow and you just never know how the day may turn out. They could have made another relationship, recorded another album etc. etc. Well... I should say I wish they would have chosen a different ending because I really liked that band and I think they had potential to still be around making music today, they really were good. Exceptional vocals, catchy tunes. McCartney wrote "Come and Get It", they did a good job with that one.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 11:25 am:    This man here is the guy who screwed them.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stan_Polley   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 12:23 pm:    I checked that link Freak. Polley seems like a real piece of work. Sad that such talented individuals are in the ground while Polley still walks the Earth. You would figure that Karma would have brought him down by now. Well, there's still time for his eyes to be picked out by vultures. I hope that happens.   Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 2:15 pm:    Me too!   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Tuesday, August 07, 2007 - 8:20 pm:    Friends, Why is it that suicidal depression hits musicians and artists so inordinately hard? It's a question for the ages. I hope none of you out there suffer from it. 'Zilla is so right... Barring painful illness, you have to just *know* that tomorrow is a better day. Please take this on faith from one who knows. And love your loved ones unconditionally; they need your support.   Ubetcha Username: Ubetcha Registered: 7-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 12:54 am:    Life is a ••••• Then you marry one Then you die....   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:37 am:    Well said Chaz. In response to your question "why...." Maybe a few factors figure in although I am not casting aspersions. maybe alcohol/drugs weakens the the thought processes. Maybe unconscious things figure into it (a whole lifetime of little things add up although they may not be conscious of them.) Some times, with rockers, I think they are just making a "statement", in other words, their suicide is a means of expression. Unfortunately, it's too severe a way to get their point across. I guess we'll never know. Folks think that with proper support, someone who is suicidal can be saved. That's true sometimes and sometimes there's just nothing you can do and it's a shame. Still, as friends, associates, musicians, we should do what ever we can if someone's in trouble this way. It's worth the effort. There's always tomorrow with endless possibilities. In the end, it's mostly the choices we make that bring us to where we are. I'd say that's 85% of it. There are situations beyond outr control though.   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 11:00 am:    Thanks, Bob. I have to say that this discussion is hard for me; I struggle with my own survivor's guilt... (why did I open this thread anyway? I should've stayed away) Yup, sometimes there's nothing you can do. Anyway, the thought of making a statement with a suicide *has* to be a side-effect of alcohol/drug abuse, Bob. I'd have to say that that's simply not a sane act. Well... OK, if you're firmly convinced in reincarnation or afterlife without judgement, then maybe you could find some rational justification. But, I'm going with the alcohol/drug idea. That rings true to me.   Bobzilla Username: Bobzilla Registered: 2-2005 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 3:04 pm:    Chaz, without getting into your personal affairs, I just want to tell you that I hope that in time, you come to a place in your heart and mind that brings you a lasting comfort in regard to what you indicated. It can happen, it can be done. It just takes time. Once you find the thoughts that comfort you, keep them and they will diminish the thoughts that trouble you. In time, all you will be left with are the thoughts that you know to be true and right. You make a conscious effort to accomplish this. Best wishes for you.   Silverstrings Username: Silverstrings Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 6:52 pm:    Chazmo, i have my own survivors guilt. But in that guilt is a sense of pride for having survived. I have been there and lived to tell the tale. I have stood at the edge of darkness with only light and hope shining up from the chasm below. Yet I have pulled myself away from there and those days/years are just a memory. A memory thast I use to gauge where I stand and to stop me from going back there. It is a painful thing to bring up and remember but perhaps just by speaking out it will help someone else. It is those that keep it all to themselves and say nothing that are here now but gone tomorrow.   Chazmo Username: Chazmo Registered: 3-2007 Posted on Wednesday, August 08, 2007 - 8:41 pm:    Good words, guys. Good words! Be brave, and never jump off the edge.

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