'57 Gold top massacre

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Author Message Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Thursday, February 16, 2006 - 11:42 pm:    Not for the faint of heart.This was recently posted on another forum.And yes,it's an original '57. Jeffsailor Username: Jeffsailor Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 12:23 am:    Whoever installed that nut was a few frets south, eh? It almost looks like it was converted to a tenor banjo... js Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 8:09 am:    You got it. It was brought up that the price for a good banjo was about the same as the GT so it was really no big deal at the time. Now it's one of those "Man,I wish I didn't do that" ideas that probably lost them,what,about $50,000? Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Friday, February 17, 2006 - 8:43 am:    Ouchhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh........Nuff said! Fredrum Username: Fredrum Registered: 10-2005 Posted on Sunday, February 19, 2006 - 10:51 pm:    ........................................ Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 6:47 am:    Would it be possible and still be worth trying to get this neck (or what's left of it) out and put in a replacement? How much would the costs be for such an operation, done by a professional? And how much would the guitar (still) be worth after restoration? Harry Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 7:56 am:    Hi Harry, These necks can be taken off by heating and moistening the animal bone based glue (or so I've read on another forum.....). The trick would be to find another neck of the same vintage (so called "old wood"). It is pretty common to make conversion 59 'burst guitars out of 52-57 Gt's. I don't get the point of messin'up a perfectly good vintage guitar in order to copy another one but it is done and one of the things it takes is a neck reset in order to change the neck angle. So the neck is taken out and reglued at another angle. To clear it up, I am talking about Gibson Les Paul models here. Not sure about the costs and value of the end product but I can imagine both will be big figures... Hope this helps. Paul Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Monday, February 20, 2006 - 3:26 pm:    You can be sure it will get a new neck and be back out on the market.But one concern was will it end up on ebay for $50,000-$60,000 with no mention of it's past or a full disclosure of it's rebuild and a more honest tag of $20,000? Overdriver Username: Overdriver Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 12:36 am:    Since '57 Les Paul Standards are going for around $100,000-$200,000 (Bursts $200,000-$300,000) it's definitely worth restoring this guitar. Gibson could put a Historic neck on it....sure a replacement neck is going to diminish its value but the pickups alone are going for up to $20,000 or more these days. Amazing Fg100 Username: Fg100 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 5:06 am:    !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHAT!!!!!!! WOW!!!!!! If the problem is to find old wood. There's old wood available 'for' the violin-building market. I mean, you can buy wood cut 100 or more years ago. It's true they're very expencive but you don't need that old, right? So, I guess a piece that is 30 to 50 years old would do. And a piece just for the neck shouldn't cost that much. Specially considering the final price this guitar can get!! I'd say it wouldn't be more than 500 Euros. Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 05-2004 Posted on Tuesday, February 21, 2006 - 11:05 pm:    Well, rather than replacing the neck, would it not be possible to build it back up to original width and profile? Surely a competent luthier could do this. He'd have to elongate the head to re-accomodate six tuners. Knowing the worth of this guitar, it would be as close to original as you could get without completely replacing the neck. What on earth were they thinking??? Overdriver Username: Overdriver Registered: 12-2005 Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 1:27 am:    "What on earth were they thinking???"....... Well, back in the day it was JUST a guitar... Who knew?? On the Les Paul Forum there have been other examples of even worse buchered old wood..... Fox Username: Fox Registered: 02-2003 Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 6:51 pm:    If you look very closely the peghead, you�ll find that it was built originally as a plectrum banjo, in the factory.. The saddle replacement is a "modification" however. But the neck itself, and the rest are "in stock" That very picture has been in a number of forums... Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Friday, March 03, 2006 - 8:33 pm:    Thats a pretty pi$$ poor factory job. They cut right through the inlay and all. Formula73 Username: Formula73 Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Saturday, March 11, 2006 - 1:15 pm:    I just threw up in my mouth.

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