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Author Message Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 11, 2006 - 3:08 pm:    Hi to all we got some large server problems in germany. So all our page are not aviable on the net now. Delay: i dont know So pray to god, nothing goes wrong. Please wait for further details on our pages: www.ibanez-vintage-page.com www.sixties-ibanez.com Hasy Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 9:17 am:    Hi ! Looks like we can`t work forward with our Pages. Still closed, and no idea, how long it goes..... We got a server aministrator failure, he "lost" 70 % of our datas, i dont know, what he have done. Remember: all Catalogs from the 50/60/70`s downloading for free, informations and a lot of vintage ibz stuff are aviable for all. More than 200 collected and saved vintage ibz guitars. Nobody missed ? I`m a litte bit confused about the reactions here, or is it only the thing to be an "american collector" not an "european one" Take care Hasy Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 9:35 am:    Hasy.....Don't be confused, its just that most of us are at the beach ! Please think of the Ibanez collector community as a Global one-I have made many, many friends "across the pond" that share the respect for this brand. I -for one- find your site a priceless resource for vintage Ibanez information. I am in awe of the dedication, effort and expense that goes into developing and maintaining your site-it is truly a labor of love and much appreciated by this "international" collector ! Paul_a Username: Paul_a Registered: 08-2002 Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 9:52 am:    Hasy and Harry, you guys do a great job. How's the book going? Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Sunday, July 16, 2006 - 10:39 am:    Harry and Hasy: I'm sorry if my lack of a response to your troubles was seen as a lack of concern. I was hoping that the problem would be minor and you would be up and running, by now. I am sorry that things are so serious. I went thru some "technical difficulites" with my web hosting company this week. Fortunately, they had a backup and the amount of lost data was minimal. I was thinking of you while going thru my ordeal. Your sites were the only source for some of the most important information on Vintage Ibanez guitars. If there is anything that I can do to help, just let me know. JohnS Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 4:17 am:    I've only just found out reading this thread. I do hope you guys get things sorted. I rarely refer to my own material now and usually hit your site if I need to look something up. I cant dream that you may have lost 70% I hope this works out with a happy ending Good luck...... six Ibanezfreak1960 Username: Ibanezfreak1960 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 8:45 am:    Harry and Hasy, hope you get it up and running soon! Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 11:12 am:    I too was hoping that the problem would be minor and figured you would be back up in no time.I thought that your post was just a heads up that you were down.And like you asked,I was awaiting further details.(although I did check everyday) No dissrespect meant.And I believe that goes for everyone here. I wish you the best in recovering your data and restoring the site. Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, July 17, 2006 - 3:07 pm:    Hasy, I for one use your site AT LEAST once a week to look something up. Other than that I browse it every so often just for fun. Judging by the amount of times your site is linked or refered to here in posts I honestly believe you guys have (or should I say had....) the most important open source for vintage Ibanez info. No offence to any other sites!!! I really hope thing will work out well and soon! Paul Captainibanez Username: Captainibanez Registered: 01-2004 Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 12:16 am:    Hasy, Harry, don't panic I'll rescan all that stuff I sent you guys a couple of years ago, might take me a while , but Captain Ibanez will always be there to help. Now I know why the emails from you website have slowed down....bloody computers Cameron Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Tuesday, July 18, 2006 - 10:15 am:    Hasy, Ginger here from Holland, Sure missed your website. The hyperlinks to your site from Ibanez Rules (which I had not bookmarked yet) didn't work, so my first thought was, that Ibanez Rules was fake or having troubles. Man, that it's you, who's having troubles, unbelievable! You are doing this for how long now? Years and years! Well, I don't know if my data contribution is any good, because I had a harddisk crash in 2004. And my own computer is a standalone with an external modem. I'm on my girlfriend's laptop now. She's got a 20MBit DSL connection. But perhaps we can learn from each other's mistakes. I made a lot but also heard a lot of solutions: I'm told the best way to avoid data loss because of harddisk crashes is to use a RAID controller. RAID stands for Redundant Array of Independent Disks. On a RAID controller old style (Abit Hot Rod) you have two options. RAID 0 and RAID 1. RAID 0 is for the fastest data transfer for all data. You use 2 harddisks, if one crashes, everything is lost. NOT FOR THIS PURPOSE. RAID 1 is for 100% error correction. You use 2 exactly the same harddisks, if one crashes the system keeps working on the second harddisk, which is an exact copy of the first. EXPENSIVE: DATA/ USED DISKCAPACITY RATIO BUT THE SAFEST WAY TO BUILD YOUR SERVER. Buy a bunch of exactly the same good high capacity harddisks. You need 2 to put in the system and you keep 1 or better 2 spares in your datasafe, just in case. (Perhaps you can buy them in the clearance sale, but read reviews: go for quality, not for speed). The second thing you do is to buy an external USB harddisk of the same capacity. And each week you copy an image of all your data to your external HD and after that you put it in your datasafe. (If you don't have one, buy one or take your external HD to another place after making the image each week!) This is for if anything might go wrong during replacement of the crashed harddisk. I know there are a lot of good hardware sellers in Germany, like Alternate (I read their ads in Holland too). If you do it right, it might cost you between about 300 (with no spares) and about 500 euro (with two spares), if you are using your own server. If you are totally depending on the server of a hosting company, you never know what's going to happen next. I hope you'll get everything back as it was, and I'll look what I can find on my own PC. But as I said. I lost a lot of data to which I had collected the expensive way (by means of a 33K6 modem) in the late 90s. Good luck and remember to use RAID 1! No, ICW doesn't stop at the USA borders! Ginger Ale Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:16 am:    Hi beloved family! I want to thank you all for your support. As you know Hasy runs the site in every technical way and at that point I'm the Dumbo here...... All I know is that we lost a lot of data somewhere in the process of (forced) moving to another server. We still try to figure out if the missing data are definively lost or that some data are still "hanging in between" or maybe if some things can be tracked down after all. Until things are clear we have put the site "under construction". If it should be definitive about the loss of data, we will run the site again but you will have to live a while with some links that don't work anymore. We will put ourself to work with the restauration, but as you all will understand: that will take a while. But anyway....I'm touched by your kind words and I hope you will keep supporting us in these "dark days"; we need that! Kind greetz, Harry Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 9:55 am:    Harry - I'm so sorry to hear about your data loss. Neither of you have a fairly recent local copy of the website? I don't mean to sound cold, but I'm surprised that either of you haven't downloaded the site to your local computer given the amount of effort that you've invested. Your pages will be missed, and we all look forward to a speedy recovery. If your administrator hasn't already ruined the possibility of a recovery (by reinstalling, or simply writing data to the disk), you can send the disks to me and I can analyze them to see what I can recover. I've become quite good at recovering data from failed hardware. -Brent Fg100 Username: Fg100 Registered: 03-2004 Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 11:25 am:    Harry and Hasy, I'm sorry to hear about that... If you guys don't have a back for the pics, and would have to scan everything again... I know I have a lot of those pages on my external HD. Just let me know if I can help. Snowjays Username: Snowjays Registered: 09-2004 Posted on Friday, July 21, 2006 - 8:01 pm:    Harry, always think positive. I'm sure that with everyones help (and data), you could end up with a better site than before. If your looking for any scans in particular, just ask. Tom. Harry Username: Harry Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 5:12 am:    Thanks guys....highly appreciated!!!!! Harry Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 8:33 am:    Hi to all members. I want to thank you all for your support. Thanks again Date: 22. July 2006 Bad News: Ibanezcollectors - all Datas lost Sixties Ibanez Page - all Datas lost All Catalog Scans - saved Ibanez Specials (Identifications and more) - all Datas lost My privat Page (Rockinghasy) - Datas lost Year by Year Info and single Pictures - 50 % saved Diary: 4 weeks ago: my personal pc crashed (FTP get lost) 2 weeks ago: The tranver failed (see above) I creat a simple Ibanez Vintage Page with minimal informations in the next weeks, so we are aviable to answer the questions and give you pemisson for the catalog scans. The rest will be not aviable for month`s. I got a lot of old CD`r with all Datas, so if i need your help, i let you know ! I have to purchase a new pc (much money for a collector) and start the work again. Relase will be unknown, get a visit to the www.vintage-ibanez-page.com for further details. Hasy Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Saturday, July 22, 2006 - 9:14 am:    What about a contribution from "us all" to Harry and Hasy's paypal account to get that new computer there FAST? Just a thought. Paul Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Sunday, July 23, 2006 - 8:06 am:    Les Paul: I`m speekless about your offer/question here ! This would be Christmas and Birthday together. Thank you very very much ! Hasy Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 3:49 pm:    So....... Nobody interested? Paul Ccs Username: Ccs Registered: 03-2001 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 5:20 pm:    I'm willing to do what I can.Just waiting for further word or a plan. Dave_g Username: Dave_g Registered: 01-2002 Posted on Monday, July 24, 2006 - 8:07 pm:    Count on me too! Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 3:41 pm:    Hasy (or Harry), Where do we go from here? Can you tell us how to do a donation? Paul Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Wednesday, July 26, 2006 - 6:47 pm:    Yes, we need a Paypal account that we can send donations to. JohnS Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Thursday, July 27, 2006 - 6:47 am:    Hi Lespaul, Johns, CSS and Daveg and the other visitors too. Thank you very very much for your feedback Yes, i got a pay pal account, i use them for my ebay auctions. There`s a link on the IVP, to make a donation, but actually, i cant show them. PLZ wait for the link, i search for it. If it works, you have to click on the donation button und the paypal site will be opened. A big thanks to all, who`s get a donation for the new computer. Hasy Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 1:08 pm:    Hi ! i work for the donation site, but actually my mailsystem got failures. I work with an old 500hrz pc, 10 years old and he dont want like my way. Hope i can fixed. Let you know, when the system works. Greets Hasy Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 6:51 pm:    Computer Datieren und Englisch sind nicht deine stärksten Seiten, Hasy. Im Jahre 1996 waren noch keine 500 MHz Pentium Prozessoren vorhanden. Ich denke er ist eher 6 Jahre alt. Compaq hat im Jahre 2000 Maschinen gebaut mit dem AMD K2-500. Und etwas später mit dem Pentium III 500 MHz. Das ist MEGAHERTZ nicht Hertz. (50 Hz is the frequency of the European mains supply, as 60 Hz is the frequency of the American mains supply.) Hast du meine RAID-Geschichte verstanden? Sie ist sehr wichtig für die Zukunft! Die Pentium III Maschinen sind an sich gute Computer. Ich verwende sie selber auch noch. Die Schwäche im Windows 98 Betriebssystem ist aber die Verwendung von FAT (File Allocation Table oder auf Deutsch Dateizuweisungstabelle). Wenn diese FAT beschädigt wird, kann das System keine einzige Datei mehr finden. Also eine schlechte Sektor im FAT-Bereich ist fatal, wenn du kein RAID 1 verwendest mit einer zweiten identischen Festplatte! Also: 1)Kauf dir wenigstens zwei identische NEUE Festplatten (wenn möglich noch 2 extra, die du als Backup eingepackt aufbewahrst). Zum Beispiel: http://www.alternate.de/html/productDetails.html?baseId=2797&artno=A9BU05 2) Kauf dir einen ABIT HOT ROD RAID CONTROLLER English info about the slowest DMA 66 version: http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=576 Es gibt auch eine schnellere UDMA 100 für €15.= in Hamburg, Deutsche Info: http://hamburg.kijiji.de/c-Kaufen-Verkaufen-Computer-Software-IDE-Controller-Ult ra-DMA100-Hot-Rod-100-Pro-von-Abit-W0QQAdIdZ5470979 3) Bau dies alles zusammen auf der Grundlage von RAID 1, und wenn nun die FAT beschädigt wird auf deiner ersten Festplatte (Festplattencrash), ist die letzte noch stimmende Kopie auf der zweiten Festplatte noch völlig intakt. 4) Als extra Backup-Medium solltest du eigentlich noch eine externe USB Harddisk kaufen mit wenigstens die gleiche Kapazität. Wenn du jede Woche eine externe Kopie machst und irgendwoanders aufbewahrst, sind deine Daten sogar sicher wenn z.B. ein Feuer die Wohnung vernichten sollte. Zum Beispiel: http://www.alternate.de/html/productDetails.html?baseId=3250&artno=A9UP02 Totale Materialkosten: 2x €69.= 1x €15.= 1x €99.= + ----------- €253.= ohne Reserve Festplatten aber inklusive USB Festplatte und alles 250 GB! Aber die externe USB Festplatte kannst Du auch später kaufen. Also für €154.= Materialkosten kannst du das System betriebssicher funktionieren lassen. DAS WICHTIGSTE: KAUF DIR MÖGLICHST BALD DAS DING AUS HAMBURG FÜR € 15.=! Hals- und Beinbruch, Ginger Ale Markownly Username: Markownly Registered: 03-2006 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:18 pm:    Ginger, Wow,, all of a sudden Hasy doesn't know english???? This is just plain bad manners! This thread is for everyone. And we all know that your english is good; there is no reason for this. Shame on you! Mark Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 9:22 pm:    WTF Over? He's not running a mission critical appliaction server that can't suffer any downtime. I'd think above all, a simple backup/archive would be essential. RAID 1, RAID 5, RAID 10, whatev.... just a good old backup (tape, CD, FTP dump) would probably do the trick for the Ibanez pages. No need for the long history lesson on corrupt FAT tables (and copies of the FAT table) when he may not even be running 98 on that box. Acetan Username: Acetan Registered: 09-2003 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 10:53 pm:    ...but Brentm, how else would you know that I'm so knowledgable? Ace Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Saturday, July 29, 2006 - 11:13 pm:    Ace... (and everyone). I'm ashamed (and hesitant because of Rich) to say that I've archived the newer catalogs.... Had I known, I would have archived the Vintage Ibanez Pages also, along with Rich's catalog scans... Here's a good little ditty to keep in your back pocket when you find a website you just can't live without. http://www.httrack.com/ Sorry, Rich. Send me a bill. -Brent Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 9:02 am:    Hasy is German, I got my Master of Arts degree in German language and literature when I was 22. And I live in the neighbourhood. He needs understandable info and good material quick! So he gets his info in his mother tongue... Big deal... Running XP on an PIII 500 is not a logical move. PIII weren't sold with XP. He'd have to buy it Retail or illegal, so I guess he's running WIN98 SE. He'd need more RAM to run it properly. (1024 MB) The big old SDRAM DIMMS are hard to get. The double harddisk solution with the €15.= RAID controller is a better option. I'm not rich either, but I know how to run a system with little money. XP is only interesting as OEM on a brand new computer. For guys like us, who spend most of our money on guitars, buying a Retail version of XP isn't the first option we think of. A legal Retail WINDOWS XP is more expensive than my hardware solution. (from €249.= and up). I know for sure Hasy has enough self-irony to just laugh about my remark about him writing English and dating computers... as long as he dates his axes well... and gets his site back in the air... Ginger Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 9:21 am:    BTW, Thank you for your constructive contribution, Ace. You sure helped Hasy a lot over the past 19 days! Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 9:33 am:    Hallo Gremerbier/Ginger ale. Danke für deine Ausführungen. Im aktuellen Zeitpunkt sind mir aber Prozessorengrösse und so ziemlich egal. Ich habe hier, hatte hier einen Totally Data Crash. Normalerweise brenne ich alles runter, aber hier ging mir die PF vor dem brennen flöten. Ziemliche Scheisse, da ich sonst sehr gewissenhaft bin Sachen Datas bin. Das letzte FTP ist vorhanden, aber noch in der alten Version. Danke aber für all deine Informationen und Hilfe zu diesem Thema, sie sind mir sehr nützlich. Ich bin aber nicht der Serverfreak, sondern eher der Informant und Grafiker. Ausserdem habe ich echt kein Geld mehr, um Zusätze, geschweige einen nenen PC zu kaufen. Ziel ist es, die Sites auf Netz zu bekommen, kann ich aber ohne neuen PC nicht. Daher arbeite ich mit den alten Teil hier, um vorwärts zu arbeiten. Ibanez rolues the world ! Hi to all sorry for the german language, but (as you know) my english is not the best, also for technical instructions. First of all, my opinion is the reaktivate the vintage ibanez pages, how longs it goes, how long i must work for it, wich pentium computer is useable - not nessesary ! I use a long phonecall with the german hosting team, to check all ways, to find my "lost" datas. They will call me back a.s.a.p. so i hope for a positiv feedback of them. I ask friends and partners in my office, to rent her computer for 4 weeks, to save the rest of all datas in the webspace. One guy give me positiv feedback, so this week i got one to use it for the "saving". By the way, its hard to see, whats happened, when things gone to the wrong way. I think positiv to work forward, forward for a new future with vintage ibanez. Thanks for your support, guys, so please support me by a donation, to buy a new compter. The link will be worked this week, so the only point is to chance all my mailadresses to a new server. A donation will be able, after this part of work. Greets Hasy Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 9:33 am:    Gemberbier: I'm not going to participate in your hijacking of this thread to discuss your knowledge of computers, operating systems, and RAID. However, I think your advise is a little over the top. A good, simple, practical, no nonsense backup would be STEP #1. Back it up to CD, back it up to tape, back it up to another computer.... but for heavens sake, BACK IT UP. Rinse... repeat as necessary. Brentm Username: Brentm Registered: 03-2005 Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 10:11 am:    It sounds like Hasy has some of the site archived, which is good! Starting from ground zero would be brutal. Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Sunday, July 30, 2006 - 10:46 am:    I don't think €154.= is over the top. Besides, who says Hasy has a second computer, a tape streamer with tapes. But I guess, he's got a CD-writer (Brenner). First he will have to replace his old crashed harddisk, that's the first €69.= So the actual extra cost for the backup part of the RAID configuration is only €84.= and is way faster than a tapestreamer. But he could also go for the external 250 GB Philips USB harddisk only for €99.= as a back up and put it on a safe place after use. But perhaps you could indeed do the same with a tape or CD-ROM (depends on how big the content is...) At least the USB Harddisk is big enough to cover the whole system, so after a crash you're back in no time! Hasy, I got a filled computer parts bin with a tape streamer in it from the boy scouts fancy fair but I didn't test the streamer yet. (I don't have tapes). If it works, I guess it will be slower than a CD and of smaller capacity than a USB Harddisk. So I don't know it will be of any help. I'd say if you're all out of money and your PIII has a "Brenner" as you say, stick with the "Brenner" and burn a 40 cents CD every two weeks or so. It pretty fast and cheap. 10 Euro per year or so. The capacity of one disk is about 700 MB, which is perhaps a little small for all your scans (I have no idea how much it was). But it's important to reduce the data size of the images by means of saving them as JPG. Sorry, my contributions have only been pieces of knowledge. It's the capital of a man with an empty wallet. Ginger Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 8:30 am:    Hi to all members ! I can see a light in the end of the tunnel First of all, the Ibanez Vintage Pages are saved ! I got phonecalls with the server administrator, he found the lost data on the last backup. He give me permission to download it with FTP, so the whole 890mb package is on the rent computer and burn on cdr (2 times) A friend of mine give me his own pc to load all datas up, saved on cdr and upload to the new serverplace. A big thanks to Mike ! So now, i can use my old pc, to regenerate and finishing the pages. There are some broken links and lost chains. Alot of work to do now, last week was gone so fast....... So i think, by the end of august, the pages will be opened and online ! Donation: I generate a Page with a donation button, to use it by today. The Mailbox works, so its possible for all, to give a little piece of happyness for the new pc. Here`s the link http://www.break-even.org/ibzindex/frames/html/donation.html If every member donate 5-10 $, the work will be go on for the next 5-10 years. So please spend for a future with vintage ibanez ! I get in discussion with Harry, to offer every person who donate more than 20 $ for the new pc, a 5$ Gift (lower price) for the upcoming Vintage Ibanez Indentification Book. Earlyest relase by End of 2007. Harry, remember ? What do you think about this ? More News next week ! A totally happy collector Hasy Lespaul Username: Lespaul Registered: 10-2004 Posted on Saturday, August 05, 2006 - 9:10 am:    Been there, done that! (And keeping this thread alive ) Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Sunday, August 06, 2006 - 9:49 pm:    We have been experiencing technical difficulties again with our hosting company. Some of the scripts may not work properly, like the Account Request one. Please bear with us, the ISP is working on stabilizing the situation. Sorry for the inconvenience. JohnS Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 1:47 am:    Glad to hear it's not too serious mate.. Some of us here in Oz were getting withdrawl symptoms. six Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 2:10 am:    Hi John what`s going on with all this hosting companys ? One day, we buy our own servers for a word without "technical problems" I hope it works now ! Take care Hasy Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Monday, August 07, 2006 - 11:59 am:    John, I don't know if it's hosted by the same hosting company, but the 3 options Year, Condition and Price of the Detailed Search Form of RusselW's database don't work anymore. It's a bit messy, all these figures grouped at random. A server of our own, that's good thinking, Hasy. Prices of computers and components are not as high as when we started computing. (My first 386 computer was 6900 guilders in 1990, sometimes I wish I had bought some more second hand guitars then). Now we could build a web server for a few hundred bucks, if we'd want to. If these hosting companies want to keep earning money, they will have to prove that they are reliable. Kind greetz, Ginger Ale Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 3:56 am:    Hi to all ! It works forward to open the pages soon ! I still need your help, guys ! and keeping this thread alive. Hasy Stankfloyd Username: Stankfloyd Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Friday, August 11, 2006 - 4:36 am:    Hasy you gotta get that thing up and running again! I need to ID this SG I'm getting.. I'm not sure if it's out of the Hoshino factory or not - your page is my last hope, Obi-won Hasnobi! Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 7:24 am:    Hi to all ! GOOD NEWS We`re back. The pages are open again. www.sixties-ibanez.com www.ibanez-vintage-page.com are aviable for free, no membership sections, go and enjoy it ! The catalog chapter is aviable for everyone, so download as much as you can ! Donation: we still need your help to work forward. The server problems are past, but for a future with more updates and more "new" info, we need your support. Harry and me will get a big thank you to following members: Jeff Sailor David George Paul Bakker for her support. You will get on this list too ? You will get a gift (lower price) for the upcoming Vintage Ibanez Identification Book (Relase 2007/2008) ? Please make a Donation (see upper level) and the future will go on for many years again ! Here`s the link: http://www.break-even.org/ibzindex/frames/html/donation.html and dont forget to get a Donation to Johns work here on the ICW ! Without this, the Ibanez world will be smaller. Thanks John, to use your forum for it ! Thanks So, i hope, my mailbox explode Hasy & Harry Stankfloyd Username: Stankfloyd Registered: 04-2006 Posted on Sunday, August 13, 2006 - 3:29 pm:    excellent! Johns Username: Johns Registered: 02-2001 Posted on Monday, August 14, 2006 - 8:04 am:    Yeah!!!!!! Hasy Username: Hasy Registered: 11-2002 Posted on Monday, August 21, 2006 - 2:18 am:    Hi to all ! just as reminder, the pc problem is still here, so please add your name to our special member list. (read above) Thanks for all and Greets from switzerland Hasy

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