Nice Vintage Aria The Pro II PE-1500

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Author Message   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 3:20 pm:    This nice Vintage Aria The Pro II PE-1500 went for only $510.- As far as I can read the serial number, it's 088133. For me personally that's interesting, because my Aria Pro II L-1000 (blonde Super-V copy = L5CES with a Super 400 neck) is a 088xxx serial number too. This one has OEM Grover tuners too. Don't know if the DiMarzio pickups were original. But I was wondering about the interpretation of that serial number 088xxx. Is that 1980? Aria always have a place in my heart, because I started on them in the early 70's. Ginger http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/711-1751-2978-71/1?AID=5463217&PID=1802666&mpre=ht tp%3A//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll%3FViewItem%26item%3D280066741008   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Wednesday, January 10, 2007 - 6:00 pm:    Ginger, I've been down this road several times with the old top end PE range. Trouble is.... unless you are an expert or, you can inspect the guitar in the flesh, there is no way of telling if this guitar was a PE1500 or a PE1000. The two models are only seperated by the jacaranda board and it's pretty hard to tell by photograph alone or the sellers interpretation. There are no other identifying marks on the guitar denoting model number. Saying that $510 was a bargain even if it was a PE1000. six   Danix Username: Danix Registered: 11-2004 Posted on Monday, January 15, 2007 - 4:17 pm:    My Pe-1000 has the somewhat interesting serial of 088088.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 6:03 am:    Very interesting Danix. How long have you had the guitar? I bought a used PE1000 around 1983. Had it a week then took it back to the shop because the guitar would not stay in tune. It turned out the fingerboard was coming off at the nut. They wouldn't refund me so I swapped it for a used Fender JV Tele with the big Fender logo. Nice guitar it was too. six   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 8:47 am:    I had this problem once with a second hand Aria SL (maple fretboard). It looks like they didn't the right glue. You wrote: "Nice guitar it was too." Didn't you keep the JV? It's worth much more than in 1983 I think. And a Tele JV would perhaps be even more collectible than a Strat. Ginger   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 05-2006 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 9:20 am:    I found this on Aria and their serial numbers: ---------------------------------------------- "Aria Guitars Arai and Company, founded in 1953 in Japan by Shiro Arai, began marketing Aria brand acoustic guitars in 1960, and began manufacturing its own acoustic guitars in 1964, followed by electrics in 1966, using Arai, Aria, Aria Diamond, and Diamond brand names. The Aria brand name was changed to Aria Pro II in late 1975, though this has been used primarily (but not exclusively) for electric guitars. All guitars were made in Japan until 1988, when production of less expensive models was switched to Korea. In the mid-1990s a few models were made in the United States. What follows is a listing of the Aria guitars we've been able to trace through this history. Obviously, this is not inclusive, and you should always take the dates as advisory, at best. Also, this whole listing is primarily related to the American market, but could also reflect dates and models from other markets as well. Dating Aria Guitars Dating Aria guitars is a mix of fair precision and historical triangulation. The early guitars did not contain serial numbers, so you have to go by the rough historical outlines here. There are no pot codes. In the mid-'70s serial numbers began to be used. At least for Aria guitars made by Matsumoku, the serial number contains the year of manufacture in the first one or two digits (Y##### or YY####). Thus, a guitar from 1979 might begin with 79####. One from 1981 might begin with 1#####. The scheme becomes less sure after 1987. Some Korean- made guitars use a serial number with year and week indicated in the first four digits (YYWW####). Thus 9628#### would be from the 28th week of 1996. However, this is not the case on all guitars, and some have serial numbers which are not date-coded." Archive information and research created by Michael Wright The Different Strummer -------------------------------------------- So if I interpret this right, our 088xxx guitars are all from 1980. But I'm curious what the 88 stands for. Ginger   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 03-2002 Posted on Tuesday, January 16, 2007 - 11:24 pm:    Ginger. No I sold it years ago. Infact, I parted the guitar up. The body went to Bill Puplett guitars in a deal for something else and the neck went on to a bound black Schecter Tele body along with the parts. That guitar got sold to a guy named Owen Paul who had a hit with 'You're my favourite waste of time' who afterwards quickly dissapeared .....along with Tele. six.   Jimbo73 Username: Jimbo73 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 9:59 am:    Hello All, How much would a Aria Pro II PE1500GC cost? I am after on and there is one for sale, Just want to know how much would I be looking at forking out for one.. Many thanks guys for any help. Jim   Fox Username: Fox Registered: 2-2003 Posted on Sunday, April 08, 2007 - 2:17 pm:    Jim, youre talkin bout that blue (guess they all are.. ) Gerry Cott-model? It could go "undiscovered" or it will fetch a lump sum o money.. Quite a fine instrument, but sorry, I can not give an estimate... I have been "on a hunt" for U-100 Urchin for quite a while now.. Six, that fingerboard-issue is rather common on Matsumoku-guitars, the reason is a mystery to me.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:31 am:    Fox, Yeah I know and it's hard to tell the difference too. I've never seen a 1500 model in the flesh so I can't say yes or no really. Re: the GC model. These are pretty scarce but kind of niche. The blue puts me off and the fancy switching too but it's a well made guitar and they are hard to source. That doesn't make it expensive though. I'll hazard a wild guess at £750 tops on that model but it would have to be totally original and well looked after for me to even think about it. Good luck six   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 12:35 am:    Fox...oh you mean the glueing issue and not the jacaranda/rosewood debate. Yeah so it seems. perhaps they don't like the Euro weather. six   Jimbo73 Username: Jimbo73 Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 8:00 am:    Thanks fella's. It is in very good condition. Its got just 2 chips on it, and these are small and not on the front. It doesnt have a hard case with it. I have had it for 15 years, and looked after it well.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Monday, April 09, 2007 - 8:56 am:    Six: What's the difference between Jacaranda and rosewood? I thought Jac was a variety of rosewood?   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 6:29 am:    It's actually a genus name, not a species name. There are 49 species within the Jacaranda Genus and they are divided over 2 subgenera, but that might change every month, because some biologists like to cluster and others like to split... Anyway... They bloom beautifully! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacaranda Rosewood is a different genus: Dalbergia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosewood Ginger   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 9:44 am:    I thought John asked me.... Anyway, I have no idea other than I thought Jacaranda was a slightly lighter reddish colour than ye'olde Brazzy rosewood. six   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Tuesday, April 10, 2007 - 11:39 pm:    Oh, sorry. I must have overlooked the "Six:". Ginger

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