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Author Message Ray Whitlock Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I wanted to see how many of us are looking for original Ibanez parts. I know that the bridges and tailpieces of earlier models were made on pot metal, so they are often heavily corroded, non-adjustable, or whatever. Every time I run into a cool 70's or early 80's Ibanez that has been played AT ALL, the bridge is corroded half to death. I have a few of the older knobs with the rubber inserts, but the metal parts are a real killer. Any machinists out there who want to run a batch of Gibralter tailpieces or bridges? Any new-old-stock parts for sale? JohnS Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Ray: I guess we're all looking for those shiny, pitless parts. J But they really don't seem to effect the price when reselling, so it's not too bad a situation. Replating seems to be more cost effective than making new (which wouldn't help in the resale department for collectible stuff) or trying to find NOS parts from the 70s. I've got a LP-style Professional with replated pup covers, bridge and tailpiece. It really does a lot to spruce up the guitar. I'm thinking of doing it for my Ash artist. The rubberband style knobs were Ibanez' biggest design flaw, IMHO. They stretch out, distort, fall off. But what are you going to do? Edo Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I never replate the hardware on my old Ibanez. Right now I might be thinking to replate my guitar after reading John's statement. John do you know how much does it cost to replate the hardware ? and how long ? Thanks in advance chris Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Can you have parts replated in black or black chorme? chris JohnS Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Edo: No I don't know the specifics, such as price. The guitar was replated when I bought it. Check out this thread for more info and a contact: Vintage & Custom Electrics: Ibanez Artist Parts Chris: Black or Black chrome? Beats me. Maybe somebody else will know. Tony Stevens Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I'm looking for a Pick Guard for a Les Paul copy. Preferably Black. I'm also looking for a Pickup Cover for a Les Paul Recording. Preferably Black. Thanks, Ton Harold Wherry (Able3) Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    John, Most (Not All) plating companies have a flat fee they charge for plating a small quanity of parts. I have found that fee to be about $55.00 I had heard horror stories about people getting parts replated and it costing them up to $1,000. When getting plating done deal directly with the Plating company. Do Not use a middle person!!! If there are any Custom guitar builders in your area, ask them where they get their plating done. This could save you from having to learn by trail and error because: 1. Gold colors differ. 2. The process for gold plating may differ. 3. It would be nice if the Plater has experience plating guitar parts! For instance, Ibanez used Zinc as an under coat and then put Gold on top of that. Well Zinc is soft and is probably why most Ibanez guitars lost the Gold and turned to Green. On the other hand Gibson used Copper as an under coat, the Gold might eventually ware off but in most cases the part did Not turn green. John, your Professional was re-plated using copper as the under coat and Gold on top. One must take into consideration that not all sufaces take well to replating. If the piece has a design or engraving on it the re-plating may(not always) cover up the engraving or cause bubbles on the surface. Next concern is the size of the part to be replated. Small nuts and screws are the most difficult to replate so do not be alarmed if the Plating company refuses to replate them. Once a part is replated it has to be buffed or polished to get that shine. Well, small parts are the most difficult to polish. Because most Platers like to re-plate in batches, that is all the parts to be gold plated for that week are replated at the same time in the same batch, It may be best to take a good photograph, or make a hand drawing of the parts you are having replated so they do not get confused with someone elses parts that are being replated at the same time. First and foremost, when dis-assembling a part for replating, write down all the steps used to perform the task so that when you get the part back from the platers you can reinstall the part with ease. I hope this helps. Harold JohnS Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Harold: Thanks for the in-depth lesson on replating. How about replating tuners? Is it possible to do the the whole thing or will it clog the mechanism? Sounds like you've gone thru this more than a few times. Should I assume that you don't think replating is detrimental to the value of a "collectible" guitar? On the flip side, should a replated guitar carry a "premium", like an OHSC? JohnS Dusty Rhoads Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Hi I just thought I would jump in here and tell you my experience with new replacement parts. I replaced the decorative tail piece and Gibratar bridge with new stock from Ibanez. I E-mailed the Ibanez Vintage Page Web-Site and asked "where was a good place to buy these parts" and the responce I got was order them from Ibanez through your local dealer. So I did! They look Great on my 2680 and I am very pleased. The down side is that it was not cheap (about $200.00 which includes all new bolts and screws). But, it was worth it! bratfrmhell Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Where can i find a IBANEZ 570 jumbo fret neck? spiro Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Has anyone ever noticed that the gibraltar tailpiece is smaller than the one on the artist models (thinner and shorter) JohnS Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Spiro: I'm not sure what you mean. The Gibraltar tailpiece you are comparing is from what model and what year? What year Artists are you referring to? The Gibraltar has gone thru some changes over the years. Or, are you saying that the CURRENT Artist reissues use a different Gibraltar tailpiece than other CURRENT guitars? If so, which models differ? spiro Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Sorry John There was supposed to be another line in my message.. The Gibraltar tailpiece on the PS10 models is about 1/4 in shorter and about an 1/8 in narrower Or is it just my eyes..... If you look at the pics of Paul stanleys the bridge is offset somewhat but on the early 80's series artists it is pretty much the same size as the bridge..... JohnS Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Sorry Spiro, but I'm not familiar enough with the PS models to say. Maybe somebody else can add to this discussion. I'll keep my eyes open though. Fusion1 Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I never saw a response to the idea of how to replate tuners. I have Ibanez tuners that are chrome, but pitted. Would like them rechromed, but don't know if that will ruin the mechanism. Dont want to just replate the buttons as the body of the tuner itself is pitted. Also can you have a part that was once a gold finish and have it replated with chrome or nickel finish? Fusion1 Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    In addition, I have to ask what the best remedy is for discolored (rust?) pole pieces, and how to keep them looking new once cleaned. Thanks. ps. Hi Spiro. Thanks for the tip of the modification to convert a regular pickup to fit in a Ibanez with the 2 on 1 side mounting screws conversion you posted on guitar.com a month or so ago. Still havent tried it, but I sure will once I get the replating thing taken care of. Harold Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Hello, I have Not attempted to have any Tuners replated. I do Not think the normal replating process will work for tuners without disassembly. MAYBE, if the tuners were completely disassembled the cases might be able to be replated and polished. It could work. The polishing/buffing is just as important as the plating. All the Best, Harold Robertson Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Buenos dias amigos . Me llamo Byron.I have a Les Paul copy Ibanez custom that is ,made in the pastI suspect late 70's or 80's but the original scratch plate is missing.If anyone can tell me how to obtain one I would be appreciative. E-mail robertsono@Tasmail.au cvalona Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I need a couple Ibanez pick-ups for my Roadstar II solid body strat type guitar. I bought the guitar at a yard sale and love it. But it only has one pick-up in it. The one one pick-up has non-adjustable pole pieces and they are round. I need the surrounds as well, including adjustment screws. The pick-ups need to be cream colored not black or stark white. Please help and please don't sale me something that dosen't work. Thank You wtoku Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I want to know about my guitar. My guitar "PS-10R" was made in 1992 (ser.no. F244687), named "limited reissue". Musical instruments shop said this model was made only 12 pieces at the same lot.(truth? lie?) I send users card ,return the back plate with Paul Stanley's signature. I want to know this gutar is special one or not. If someone know about this model , please teach me . Thank you. (Sorry ...I'm Japanese , I can't use English well . ) Dan Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    I have a DT-555/Phil Collen model Destroyer. I do not have the allen wrenches for the locking nut, and have found that the wrenches for my other guitars don't work on it! Any suggestions??? Mark Munchenberg Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Spiro, The tailpiece on the PS10 is different than the usual Gibralter tailpiece you find on Artists, and Concert Series guitars of the same period. The 1978 catalogue makes mention of the "special modification" but does not elaborate on what exactly is different about it. Cheers, Mark. Timo Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Dan, I also have a DT-555. A 3 millimeter allen wrench seems to be the right size for my lock nut bolts. It is possible that you have standard size wrenches and that none of them may be a close enough equivilent MM fit. If you DO have metric wrenches it is also possible that the bolts might have been changed. In either case, take the bolt to a good hardware store for a match and buy a set of wrenches because you will need another one for the lock behind the fine tuners on the string saddles. That bolt is 2 MM on my guitar and the saddle height adjustment ones are 1.5MM. If it's a real good store you can buy just the sizes you need. Shouldn't cost you more that a few bucks. Another good source is a good auto parts store. By the way, don't overtighten any of those bolts once you find the right wrench! Good luck, Timo timo Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Spiro and Mark, I beleive I can add to the tail piece size conundrum. First, I think we should clarify that we are refering to what Ibanez initially called the "Gibraltar" tailpiece and then in later years called(calls) the "Quick Change" tailpiece right? The first one does seem narrower from front to back and uses small bolts to hold it to the studs and also uses small white nylon washers. The later style which Ibanez calls spcifically "Quick Change II" uses the more standard stud mounting with the large, round, sloted head bolt. I have 2 "QC-II's that are in fact different sizes. An older one(circa 1984) is 3/4 of an inch(20mm) measured from front to back while a newer one(circa 1999) is only 11/16ths(17.5mm) from front to back. Some other notes: my old CQ-II has a curved bottom while my new CQ-II has a flat bottom and the front,top edge on the new one is very sharp compared to the old one. How's that for minutia! I just felt like I should back up Spiro since I noticed the same diferences he pointed out. Cheers, Timo Mark Munchenberg Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    Timo, The Gibralter tailpiece is different to the Quickchange. Both tailpieces were sold at the same time on different models. The '78 catalogue shows the Gibralter on the Artists and Concerts, while the Qhickchange is on the Icemen and Performers. From what you say there is a third derivative called the QuickchangeII. All I can tell from the Picture of the PS10 in the catalogue is that it looks like a Gibralter and not a Quickchange. Mark. eloy Gutierrez Posted on Friday, October 08, 2004 - 11:09 am:    replating tuners can be done by an experienced plater. (ha, ah, ha, ah, ha). Anyway, platers will use a wand to electro plate the part. So disasembly is unnecessary. You really don't have to worry about "jamming up" the mechanism. The simply rub this "wand" of the section they are replating. Eloy Richard (Goldentone) Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 1:56 am:    Before replating try polishing with "Autosol" ( A german made chrome & metal polish in a tube which should be available at any auto store). Thought all the chrome on my 1981 musician was stuffed but this has brought it up like new Goldentone (Goldentone) Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 2:25 am:    Oops I suggest you dont use this polish on gold hardware as it will remove all gold plating but its gr8 for chrome only jerryneves Posted on Wednesday, August 01, 2001 - 9:37 pm:    I am restoring my 70's Korina Flying V. I would like to replate the gold plated flying finger Super 80's, but I dont believe these covers are removable (Looks like they are set in glue/wax. Does anyone know if electroplating the covers will ruin the pick-up if its left together? Second, the bridge has been changed to a gibson style (small and flat) tunomatic bridge. Does Iabanez sell a replacement small bridge with the original style radius? Any info appreciated. Joona (Joona) Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 5:37 pm:    A question arose when cruising through your discussion: Has anyone ever experienced string snapping on a Gibraltar-tailpiece? Especially on the high e-string. Because I have. I changed three strings in a row and they all went 'kojoing' on me. Any advice? Would highering the tailpiece help perhaps? Spiro (Spiro) Posted on Sunday, February 22, 2004 - 10:34 pm:    I would bring it up a bit and also check the groove and make sure there is no sharp edges on the E string grooves.. If there is you may have to file it away and then sand it to smooth it out Soulfilament (Soulfilament) Posted on Thursday, March 25, 2004 - 8:29 pm:    I have sent some bridge parts from an '82 artist around for quotes on replating. All the platers I have spoken to refuse to replate the parts. Supposedly acids are used in the plating process. Since the parts are made of Zinc, the platers claim the acid will desintegrate the Zinc. Has anyone here had their Zinc Ibanez parts replated? Was a good job done? Can you direct me to the platers used? Thanks. Dave_G (Dave_G) Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 7:17 am:    Soul..I've had very good results with Three Rivers Plating...talk to Tom he's the owner and a guitar freak......Just googleize them, they have a nice little website..I've done 15 or so guitars with no problems.... Dave_G (Dave_G) Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 7:18 am:    Heres the "After" Soulfilament (Soulfilament) Posted on Friday, March 26, 2004 - 2:53 pm:    Dave, Thanks for your response, it looks good. These guys? http://www.goldplater.com/ Dave_G (Dave_G) Posted on Saturday, March 27, 2004 - 12:59 am:    Yea, Talk to tom -he's a guitar freak '''

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