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Author Message Johnm (Johnm) Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 3:23 am:    Just curious what everybody is using live and why? I'll start. Live I use: - Cry Baby (pre Dunlop) Wah and then in a Boss BCB-6 case - Boss PSM-5 Power supply. - Ibanez Tube Screamer TS-9 (the old one not the reissue). - Ibanez Parametric EQ PQ-9 (for the extra punch while playing a solo). - Ibanez Stereo Chorus CS-9 (this one is always on. The best sounding chorus pedal ever). - Ibanez Flanger FL-9 - Ibanez Analog Delay AD-9. (also always on.) While practising I only run my signal through a mint Ibanez CS-505 Chorus pedal. I used to have some 19" rack stuff but I found out that I was only using 2 or 3 presets in total. Also I got sick of dragging flightcases around.. ;-) Who's next? Guitaki (Guitaki) Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 5:07 am:    I'll start a few years back, since my current setup does not necessarily tell the truth. -Farfisa TR70, solid state 2x12" combo -Hughes & Kettner Tube Factor Everybody liked, great sound, A/B:ing to for example a Fender Vibrolux was difficult, very similiar. -Carvin XV100, all tube 1x12" combo -H&K Tube Factor Carvin had something spectacular, but I frustrated since I couldn't find the right tubes for me. This one weighted also 36kg! -H&K Edition Tube -Yamaha DG Stomp The Tube Factor doesn't work well with the Edition. POD didn't work with any amp, but DG works really fine with the Edition when connected to Eff Return. I use regular sounds (clean and crunch) and some reverb. Yesterday I saw a Carvin XT50 in our music shop. Why didn't the boss tell me! I played with it a while, and was blewn away, again. The bottom is incredible! The tubes were pretty bad (ofcourse) so the OD was terrible, but I know it to be a great amp. So, Edition might go bye-bye quite soon. -Aki. Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 5:30 am:    At the moment: A pair of WEM Dominator's, a 1x15 and a 1x12. Or Fender Deluxe Pedals (from input to output): MXR Phase 45 Vox wha Ernie Ball Volume pedal SIB Varidrive Custom built Boost/Overdrive by Jesse Hoff DoD digital delay Roland/Boss CE1 Dunlop Univibe and expression pedal Alesis Microvibe The Microvibe is giving me grief at the moment as it seems to overload the signal when I kick in the Boost pedal. I've tried the Microvibe in various positions throughout the effects chain but with no luck. Any ideas how to get round this problem?? Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Sunday, August 18, 2002 - 12:16 pm:    Sorry, I'd just got up. That's a Microverb II. Must try and get more sleep..... Munch (Munch) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 8:10 am:    Hi Guys, I use a very simple set up. Guitar plugs into a Matchless Hot Box - a point to point wired 2 channel pre-amp in pedal format. Hot box then plugs into a Dunlop ABY box, which then splits the signal into two amps - a Fender Blues Deville, and a Fender Blues Deluxe. Regards, Mark Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 2:51 pm:    Hey Gang, Good thread Johnm! After spending way too much money and time messing with tube amps and effects pedals, I've whittled my gear down to; Line6 POD Crate GFX1200H Head Crate TV112V 1x12 Cabinets (2) I generally run the POD direct to the PA for practice. For live use, the POD goes to a passive direct box. The XLR out goes to the board. I run the 1/4" out into the effects loop jack on the Crate GFX1200H. This by-passes the preamp and basically turns the Crate into a monitor. In case of a POD failure, I can plug into the Crate's input as a back-up. Cheers Steve Johnm (Johnm) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 3:36 pm:    Hi Steve, I have never had the chance to try any Line6 product. What exactly is an POD? Is it like a pre-amp or signal processor? John Tim_Walker (Tim_Walker) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 4:35 pm:    After years of annoying effects pedals (Boss, Yamaha etc) I've now gone back to plugging straight into my amp. No racks or processors, just GUITAR....ahh bliss. (I do still have a pre-Dunlop Cry-Baby that comes out for recording though) Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Monday, August 19, 2002 - 6:19 pm:    Johnm, The Line6 POD is a digital processor that can emulate 32 different amplifers, and 16 different speaker cabinets. And, you can mix and match! For example, you can dial up a '52 Fender Tweed and drive a Marshall 4x12 w/Greenbacks. Or a Marshall Plexi through a 4x10 Bassman cab. Controls are modeled after the amp selected (gain, treble, etc..). On-board effects are included. 36 patches can be programmed and saved. "Deep Editing" through Midi connections to a computer allow for tweaking beyond what's available on the front panel. You can find reviews/opinions ranging from, "It sucks!", to "The best thing ever". While purists contend that digital modeling will never replace tube amps (I tend to agree), I find it very useful especially for recording. I like some of the "Boutique" simulations too. I can't afford a real Budda Superdrive 30! http://www.line6.com (for more info) Cheers Steve Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Tuesday, August 20, 2002 - 3:32 pm:    Tim You can have the best of both worlds if you whack a ‘true bypass’ switch on to a pedal board. Manufacturers are starting to make use of the feature more and more. I wouldn’t even think about using my board now without the bypass. six Funkle (Funkle) Posted on Wednesday, August 21, 2002 - 2:45 pm:    I too have dumped a lot of rack gear in favor of going direct. I found that the rack processor choked all the life out of my sound, when compared to direct. I'm using a Yamaha DG80 for an amp. This is a digital modeling amp, but the interface is the most analog like of any of the modeling amps I tried - it has real knobs! I'm no slave to tubes or brand names, I just like what sounds good to me. I'm in love with some of the tones it produces. It has some great clean tones, Jazz and funk; I get a good dirty Scofield crunch; and I'm also able to get that smooth singing overdrive (Carlton, Henderson) that has eluded me for so long - compressed and sustainy but not edgy. There are some built in effects. It has some pretty good sounding reverb and tape echo settings - not a lot of control over parameter though. There is a built in chorus and vibrato effect that I'm not in love with. I'd like to add a high quality time based effect unit to remedy this. Or maybe the right chorus pedal. The one rack processor I would probably consider is the T.C. Electronic G-Force. This is about the best sounding unit I have heard. It ain't cheep though. I'm looking for a good wah pedal as well. -Sven Johnm (Johnm) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 4:46 am:    Sven, If you can find one I suggest to try an old Ibanez Wau Wau pedal. I think they sound better than a crybaby. Russellw (Russellw) Posted on Thursday, August 22, 2002 - 6:41 am:    Just a Zoom 8080 ME pedal. It isn't as robust as I'd like but with 72 presets and 4 staged push tabs it suits the transitions from Acoustic to Electric very well. THe ability to store another 36 custom patches and to mod the existing ones is also handy when time permits. The presence of a clean channel is a bonus for when I juust want the sound of the guitar. Cheers Russ Flcc (Flcc) Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 11:37 am:    I don't have much stuff, but I have had good comments on the sound I am getting and I seem to think that for the price I paid, I have a pretty good setup. I run my guitars into a BOSS ME-30 multi-effects pedal then into a Fender Stage Lead 100 amp (I always am playing into a sound system and don't need big sound on stage) {mostly I can't afford a nice stack with my unhealthy going to school addiction }. The vintage and blues are what I focus on and it gets a good vintage sound out. Nothing fancy, but I happen to like it.. (Note, all the multi-effects pedals I have set up for friends there is one thing in common... All the presets are too extreme of effects. It is like they want to show off the range it can do. Anyway, I don't know if that is just my opinion, or do other people think that too?) Cheers from a Canuck! FLCC Guitaki (Guitaki) Posted on Saturday, August 24, 2002 - 6:11 pm:    Steve had a great info on the POD, but one thing I must correct. "The Line6 POD is a digital processor that can emulate 32 different amplifers, and 16 different speaker cabinets." Should have 'tries to' instead of 'can'. Some hardcore distortions can sound fairly good, but searching for a real clean or crunch sound from a POD is like trying to find a '59 Gibson 335 for a dollar. DG Stomp from Yamaha is trying to compete with POD. DG doesn't have as many controls, doesn't have such great hard distortions, and the compressor sucks... but what DG has, are great clean and crunch sounds even when plugged into an amp. Also, DG Stomp is a pedal, where all presets are footswitchable. Also, POD never made fair sounds connected to any amp I tried. When DG:ing my H&K Edition Tube, an internationally professional guitarist said that I have a great sound and he envies my touch. And I agree, the DG sounded very good. That said, I still believe that no modelling device (under $2000) can compete with Vox Valvetronix when it comes to original, raw and honest basic sounds. Flcc: I agree, all modelling systems (except for the Valvetronix ;o) seems to be showing of with the presets. I don't think that is bad though, they show what can be done with the product, simplier sounds can be found much more easily. (Bypassing the effects.. :o) -Aki. Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar) Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 1:02 pm:    Aki, "Tries to" would be your opinion of the POD. My opinion differs. I have been able to dial in anything I have needed, including several cleans and soft overdrives. What are you running the POD through? ALl the factory presets were gone the first night I owned my POD! Cheers Steve Johns (Johns) Posted on Monday, August 26, 2002 - 4:23 pm:    I've got a digitech RP7 with the following features: • Tube and Solid State Distortions • Built-in Expression Pedal • Tube Preamp (12AX7) • Full bandwidth effects (20-20kHz) • 24-bit signal path, 48-bit internal data path • S-DISC II ® Processing • Harmony Effects • Jam-Along Jack • Learn-A-Lick Function • Programmable Speaker Cabinet Emulator • Chromatic tuner • Compact floor design chassis And I rarely use any of them. I plug it directly into the back of my Peavey Chorus 212 (so I'm not using it's amp section either). I have a modded TS9 Distortion pedal and a CryBaby wah. I freely admit that I have NOT spent enough time honing this setup, but it works. Lately, I've been practicing thru my Yamaha QY100 sequencer. I take it, the transformer, headphones and a cable to anywhere in the house I want. Can even sit down watch TV and noodle late into the night, without disturbing the wife. Paddy_F (Paddy_F) Posted on Tuesday, July 22, 2003 - 4:26 pm:    Hi all, just found this thread, for quick fix recording, * sans amp ti-od (analogue amp and speaker simulater), * boss se70 (15 years before the TC fireworks, fraction the cost), * Ibanez parrot box, * Kork AX30G, (good for wierd stuff), for live, straight into the boogie, but occasionally for the odd dep, * Rat 2 (early one,it beats the hell out of my Ibanez tube king 999), * Danelectro digital delay. * Ibanez CS9 chorus, Favourites,-- Rat2(harmonic squeal city)-- and Ibanez chorus. Has anyone else had any dealings with PROCO Rat pedals, regards Paddy. Munch (Munch) Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 8:08 am:    Effects?? I'm using: 1. Point to point wired tube reverb tank. 2. Ibanez UE-035 board with Comp, Delay, Chorus. 3. Reverend Drivetrain 2. 4. Menatone Top Boost-in-a-Can. I really only use the delay on the Ibanez board. Cheers, Mark Raceboy (Raceboy) Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 10:37 am:    I decided to get back into gigging about a year ago, and spent a lot of time researching gear since I hadn't been into it since the very early 70's. I tried out a lot of equipment, both in music stores and at jams and other musicians' homes and studios. I bought a Line 6 Vetta HD and 412 cab last August. I wanted a smaller rig for going to jams and bought a Line 6 DuoVerb. The company just released a new amp called HD147, and I traded my DuoVerb in on an HD147. There will be an upgrade available for the Vetta to bring it up to the same basic specs as the HD147, including all of the amps and effects of the HD147, plus additional upgrades making it a Vetta II. I've heard all the arguments from the strictly tube enthusiasts, and find little fact in most of them. (not trying to open THAT debate here) I have had flawless performance from my gear, and get complimented on my tone at every gig or jam that I use my amps. I also have the Line 6 Variax guitar, and it's an amazing instrument. I have what would take a refrigerator size rack in a compact unit that's quick and easy to setup and tear down at gigs. I also have one of the original 5150 heads that sits in wait as a backup. We've used it for a keyboard amp a few times when we had a keyboard player come sit in with us. And my Bob Weir sounds AWESOME through these rigs!!! Oh yeah, I run the Vetta HD through a pair of Genz Benz G-Flex 212 cabs. GREAT speakers!!! Craigjc (Craigjc) Posted on Thursday, July 24, 2003 - 2:11 pm:    Paddy, regarding ProCo stuff, a friend of mine has a TurboRat. I know it's not the classic Rat pedal so many people love, but it did everything from mild overdrive to over-the-top distortion very well. I was impressed. Challenger (Challenger) Posted on Friday, August 01, 2003 - 10:18 pm:    I have the old UE400 and UE405. I picked them both up for the current market price of a vintage TS-808(which the UE400 has built-in). Analog city, and no wall-wart adaptor! I also use an Ibanez Power Lead distortion. It's a damn good little fuzz box. It gets the grit without trashing the tone. Johns (Johns) Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 3:40 pm:    When my Digitech RP7 fritzed out last year, I went back to just my Boss Digital Delay, Ibanez TS9 and Cry Baby wah. Last week I finally got around to going out to shop for something new. I bought a Boss GT6. It doesn't have a tube preamp like the Digitech, but I've already gotten more use out of the effects than those of the RP7 over the entire time I owned it. The biggest problem I have with these new kinds of processors is that they are technical monsters to master and the manuals seem to assume you have a degree in electronics. The Boss manual was obviously written by someone who didn't know English very well, but that's a whole nother rant. If it weren't for the on-line "communities", usually sponsored by the manufacturer (thank you!), it would be impossilbe for me to figure these digital do-hickeys out. The last time I looked, Digitech had a decent website for finding patches and other downloads. They also run mailing lists for various products (even the discontinued ones). Tascam has an awesome site that incorporates a User Forum and Discussion Board. Everybody there was great to talk to and offered fantastic help and advice. Boss' BossCentral has yet to prove whether it's as useful as the other two sites. Boogieknight (Boogieknight) Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 9:43 pm:    today my set up is Teese wizard wah> ibanez ts808> ampeg scrambler> option 5 phase> Mutron octave divider> mutron 3> ross compressor and in my effects loop boss/roland CE 1> Ibanez AD 80> Line 6 DL4> and soon all plugged into a stevenson 40 watt head. currently I used a mesa studio 22+ or a fender stage 160 Johns (Johns) Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 9:50 pm:    Oops, I need to correct something in my message above. First of all it's www.bossgtcentral.com and second it's not run by Boss, but it looks so professional, I thought it was. Acetan (Acetan) Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:23 pm:    I run a 70's vintage Tom Schultz Rockman Stereo echo and chorus into my Fender Musicmaster bass amp and crank it all the way up to get every bit of the 8 watts out of it and an Ibanez AD99 analog delay into the Musicman RD50. I haven't entered the 1990's yet. Acetan (Acetan) Posted on Tuesday, March 09, 2004 - 11:37 pm:    Just been told that the AD99 was made in 1998. Guess I got into the nineties without knowing it. I got the AD99 a few years ago (I thought it was NOS) to replace my worn out Watkins Copycat and it is so much easier to operate than the old tape echo even though it doesn't match the tonal quality. That must be the price of progress. Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:50 pm:    Here goes: 1. ART Multiverb 2. DOD Digital Delay 3. Dunlop Univibe + expression pedal 4. Electro Harmonix Holy Grail Reverb 5. Ernie Ball volume pedal 6. Fulltone Clyde Wha Wha 7. Hot Chilli Tube Company ‘Tubester’ 8. BOB Boost/Overdrive custom built by Jesse Hoff 9. MXR Phase 45 10. Roland CE1 chorus 11. SIB Varidrive + P/Sup 12. TC Electronics G-Major 13. Vox Wha Wha 14. Xotic Robotalk 15. Xotic AC Booster 16. Xotic RC Booster All this stuff gets used but at different gigs and with different rigs but it's all great fun! six Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:51 pm:    Updated list by the way. Plus I outed the Microverb 2 and bought the Holy Grail. Great pedal six Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Wednesday, March 10, 2004 - 3:54 pm:    I mean MICROVIBE 2!! I must stop drinking at tea time! six Munch (Munch) Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 6:17 am:    My effect chain is pretty simple. - Reverend Drivetrain II - Cowboy Outboard Tube Reverb tank (clone of '63 Fender) - Ibanez AD9 Delay (only occasionally). Cheers, Mark Boogieknight (Boogieknight) Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 9:42 am:    "15. Xotic AC Booster 16. Xotic RC Booster" what are these pedals like? these are line level boosters? Do they do a good job w/o coloring tone? what's the difference between the 2? any info would be helpful cheers Midian (Midian) Posted on Monday, March 15, 2004 - 8:06 pm:    Ibanez RS-335 into Teese RMC-3 Wah into BOSS CE-2 Chorus, into SweetSound Ultra Vibe. Signal goes to Mesa Triple Rectifier head, Electcro Harmonix Holy Grail reverb in effects loop. From there to two KKAudio 4X12 cabs loaded with Celestion Vintage 30 speakers. Sounds magnificent! Sixvsix (Sixvsix) Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 5:02 am:    Hey Boogieknight, The AC Booster: More like an overdrive pedal touching on distortion but without the nasal-snap sound that normally occurs with a lot of pedals of this type. You can hear it driving the front end of the amp nicely. Great with a clean combo for instance or will beef up an already overdriven tone. The RC Booster: This is more or less a booster in the true meaning of the term. Great for boosting solos either clean or dirty and will add extra drive to a mildly overdriven sound ...real nice. Won't colour your sound like a lot of pedals and good for that creamy blues tone too. This pedal is nearly as cool as my "BOB" booster custom made for me by "Jesse Hoff" in the U.S.A Depending on the gig/music I'm playing I use them neat in front of my 65 deluxe and in front of my Custom Audio 3+SE with no discolouration of tone or sound. You need to be a little careful using the AC in front of the high gain channel of your amp to avoid total saturation. Check out the sound bites on this site. Some great players here and impartial comments on the pedals too. http://www.prosoundcommunications.com/english/xotic/effects/musicians/index.html While your on this site, check out Michael Thompson's demo of the "Zvex Nano" amp. It's an amazing little thing and he's using it with a RC booster. Have fun! six

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