Peter Green: Not A Household Name...

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Author Message   Allears Username: Allears Registered: 6-2007 Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 10:24 am:    Bluesmeister really deserves the credit for this thread....but he got me thinking deeply .... Peter Green of whom B.B. King said -- and I paraphrase here -- "One note of Peter Green brings tears to my eyes." ....That coming from the Chairman of the Board.... Peter Green -- a musician whose emotional intensity has inspired superlative guitarists of several generations still remains unknown to the general public and also to too many guitarists... For example, many of both groups are still under the impression that Santana composed Black Magic Woman... (Many of whom also don't know that Fleetwood Mac originated in a studio with Peter Green, John McVie and Mick Fleetwood.) But Green -- I think -- deserves much wider recognition. Not to mention Green's vocals, his (many types of) vibratos alone are lessons in genius, along with his tone, and his 'chromatic concept' of playing Blues (like B.B. King's) way back in 1966. An example: originally - from what I understand -- a 'throwaway' studio jam, the unknown cut 'Greeny' and 'simple' 12-bar on the newer double-CD release of Mayall's A Hard Road deserves some serious attention -- and almost all of Green's playing is in one position! Also on that same CD, Green's tone, vibrato and solo on the cut So Many Roads are worth the price of the CD...and then also some very serious extensive study. Green's intensity is generally as wondrous as Eric Clapton's relatively unknown solo (to most guitarists even) on Sweet Wine (Cream's 1st LP) -- a work of genius even by today's standards almost 50 years later (an impossible solo to duplicate because of its intensity alone).... Anyone I've ever played that solo for sits up in his or her chair and takes notice...Well, all the same for Green on So Many Roads -- a track on which he unknowingly has invented his own class of tone and intensity.....(scary). When one steps back and looks at: a half century ago, Green’s contemporaries, the Blues- and Rock- guitar and music scenes, Green’s vocals, guitar sound, his compositions, his solos, his concept of rhythm and 'swing', his originality, wide-ranging development and the variegated colors of his complex musical personality.... and later, if one looks at merely the superlative lineage of guitarists Peter Green has inspired – one example, The Supernatural, as legend has it, inspiring Santana to play guitar -- we're looking at a superlative musician by anyone’s standards. to be continued.... Allears   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Friday, June 15, 2007 - 11:39 am:    Fleetwood Mac's version of Elmore James' "Shake Your Moneymaker" caused chicken skin when I heard it for the first time(s). I don't know why, probably it is just blues (rock?) with the feeling. They have many other great recordings. I guess I praised them enough at Miscellaneous » What's your favorite..... http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/17 /727.html?1174527685 Juha   Tbplayer Username: Tbplayer Registered: 4-2007 Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 12:02 pm:    my favorite peter green? "needs must, the devil drives" other fav pickers are: coco montoya, tab benoit, ec, carlos & mark, alvin youngblood hart. and many others   Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Wednesday, June 20, 2007 - 10:28 pm:    Beautifully written, Allears. Gary Moore certainly owes a huge debt of gratitude to Greeny, he owns his '59 LP, or at least he DID http://www.maverick-music.com/scripts/vintage-guit ars.asp?idProduct=1211 I recall a TV interview with John McVie and Mick Fleetwood some years ago in which they discussed PG's deteriorating mental state. According to John McVie, while they were on a German tour, somebody spiked PG's drink with LSD. It was apparent that Peter had already been showing signs of mental instability, the song Man Of The World is clearly very dark in its lyrical content. Later songs like Green Manalishi (With The Two Pronged Crown) reinforce this belief, and so it was unfortunate that he finally descended into his own personal nightmare. Peter Green has left us a legacy of sublime music, I'm three years younger than he is, but I don't think I'll ever attain the beauty of his simple, fluid playing. He is my main inspiration. There are those who admire Steve Vai for his blazing guitar playing, but I'd much rather listen to Peter Green wringing sheer emotion from his guitar. One thing I'd *really* like is a stereo version of Oh Well. Of the three recordings I have (one on an early Greatest Hits album split into the Pt I & Pt II halves as per the original 45rpm single) and the complete versions on Then Play On and a compilation album I have. They are all mono.   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 1:12 pm:    I always like this one: http://www.rollonvideo.com/youtubeizle__Monty%20Py thon%20-%20Albatross__Z_u7VGiMO0U.html Ginger   Gemberbier Username: Gemberbier Registered: 5-2006 Posted on Thursday, June 21, 2007 - 1:16 pm:    Or was it this one? http://www.rollonvideo.com/youtubeizle__Fleetwood- Mac-Albatross__bSZHT2XvoLM.html ... I always get them mixed up. Must be that German beer... or Alzheimer... Ginger   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 2:34 pm:    Something more http://www.snappermusic.com/Labels/Snapper/Artists /Peter+Green I have "Hot Food Powder" CD. Juha   Tonedef Username: Tonedef Registered: 3-2004 Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 7:40 pm:    IMO, Green was the best Brit-Blues guitarist ever. I will say some of what I thought was Green's playing was actually Danny Kirwan, who is very under rated and a great guitarist as well. Tonedef   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Saturday, June 30, 2007 - 9:29 pm:    Green the greatest? I'd probably have to agree with Tonedef on that one. Unfortunately, of late he's been a shadow of his glory days. Plus the fact that he has more hangers-on than a tramps arse cashing in on his past reputation. Shame.   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Monday, July 02, 2007 - 7:30 pm:    Surprisingly Peter Green and Fleetwood Mac have been discussed also at Vintage & Custom Electrics (1970s Only) » Vendor to Directly Order Pick-Up Rings? http://www.ibanezcollectors.com/discus/messages/12 /1000259.html?1183416947 Juha   Bluesmeister Username: Bluesmeister Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 1:11 am:    Six, I bought PG's first post-breakdown album In The Skies back in 1979, and I was disappointed, very disappointed. As you rightly say, he was a mere shadow of his former self. For me, it was very sad, I much prefer to remember him how he was, not how he is now.   Sixvsix Username: Sixvsix Registered: 3-2002 Posted on Tuesday, July 03, 2007 - 2:46 am:    When I was living in the UK, I had a Les Paul fixed up by a guy who made Greeny a guitar a few years back. He had several meetings with him and there were always a couple of cronies that were basically 'hanging around' (to put it very mildly). He told me some very interesting stuff about the man and it put to rest a lot of bull that has been said about him. The guy is a flawed genius in the nicest sense of the term. When I hear the old stuff, I still get huge goose bumps on my arms. six

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