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Author Message   Brucifer Username: Brucifer Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 4:15 pm:    I always go back to these albums. Nursery Cryme is my favorite. i discovered these albums 10-12 years after they were recorded in the early 80's. something about Gabriel's science fiction bent lyrics and Hacketts subtle yet determined solos caught my attention. In their prime they were the best of the english Progrock bands.. believe me i am used to being chastized for this opinion.. so you won't hurt my feelings if you disagree...   Talajuha Username: Talajuha Registered: 11-2006 Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:07 pm:    Is "Fly On A Windshield" about a fly or about flying? Juha   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Wednesday, September 26, 2007 - 5:22 pm:    I was never an official Genesis fan, but I do like "The Lamb Lies Down on Broadway" and recently bought the album on CD. Some great stuff in there. I can't stand the eighties' versions of Genesis, Gabriel or Collins, however, and not on talent terms, but mainly on "commercial vs. not" terms. But I won't go there, as this is the "appreciation" thread. -Chuck   Brucifer Username: Brucifer Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 10:26 am:    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W35wtfcByIY   Brucifer Username: Brucifer Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 12:10 pm:    for some reason my text got left out of the last post i also despise collins era Genesis. wish he stuck to the drums, superb drummer. Hackett is a true original his style/sound is like no else's.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 9:43 pm:    I got into Genesis at Trick of the Tale and then went backward and fell in love with the entire Selling England By The Pound album. I kept going backward and found Watchers of the Skies, Carpet Crawler and others. Compare the raw sound of the Musical Box vid, above and the subdued and controlled Moonlit Knight vid, here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdD6L4cKKU8 Yes, one day Steve Hackett would stand and play.   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 9:47 pm:    According to some, Hackett invented the tap technique. It's clearly evident in these clips. Anybody else ever heard this?   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 10:40 pm:    Yea, when i worked at our local music store, i had a customer who was like a music historian. him and i would get into arguments on which was the best genesis. I litigated phil collins (i was young and never even heard the early genesis) and he forced peter gabriel genesis, i finally after two months threw on the tapes of genesis he gave me and was impressed and felt like a complete idiot. im with old genesis   Brucifer Username: Brucifer Registered: 9-2007 Posted on Friday, September 28, 2007 - 11:38 pm:    in 1980 i was 13, i would spend hours in this used album shop near my house, this is where i came across Nursery Cryme. inside the jacket was this weird short story about a girl that disrobes on a bus and turns into a strange glowing orb. i read this while listening to the first track of the album *Music Box*.. man what an experience. all my friends at the time were starting to get into punk music and new wave. so i had to keep my love for early genesis a secret. after 27 years im out of the closet   Petruz Username: Petruz Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 8:01 am:    i was lucky to be a teenager back in the very early seventies and to get exposed to all the great progressive bands while they grew up and became famous: genesis, jethro tull, yes, emerson lake and palmer, king crimson (and a myriad of smaller bands like curved air, electric light orchestra, iron butterfly, premiata forneria marconi)... oh gosh, what a formidable release of sheer genius music. these guys were good in so many senses - incredible lyrics, harmonies, technique, and an open-minded approach and attitude regarding rock music. they really pushed hard off all boundaries. the fact that punk overshadowed all this is a sign of the times... something like linus vs. homer simpson.   Petruz Username: Petruz Registered: 5-2004 Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 8:54 am:    just to mention a few other great groups of that period: pink floyd, gentle giant, van der graaf generator, renaissance, moody blues, focus, soft machine, camel, banco del mutuo soccorso...   Johns Username: Johns Registered: 2-2001 Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:04 pm:    Here's a pretty good review of the Genesis 1976-1982 box set. http://www.vintagerock.com/classiceye/genesis_box. aspx For me, it is a very perceptive recap of the band's evolution after Gabriel left. I think the reviewer nailed the essence of the Trick of the Tail and Wind & Wuthering. If you listen to post-Genesis Hackett, you can hear a connection. I lost interest after And Then There Were Three. But it was the only tour that I saw them in concert. They do pay homage to their Gabrielian roots, in concert. Too bad Hackett & Gabriel aren't doing the reunion tour.   Chucke99 Username: Chucke99 Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 12:56 pm:    Is it just me, or is that a look of contempt that Collins gives Gabriel at the start of the Moonlit Knight video? Could he be thinking, "Just you wait, Peter, someday you'll be gone and then all this will be mine! Then, only then, will I reveal my masterwork to the world: ABACAB!" -Chuck   Zenday Username: Zenday Registered: 2-2007 Posted on Saturday, September 29, 2007 - 10:37 pm:    LOl! Yes those were great prog bands. I tried to continue looking for bands that follow that recipe, its rare but there are some. There a one called porcupine tree thats great their early stuff. I used to love hangin out at the record store lots of people with knowledge of the good bands like those mentoned above. Record shops are now extinct, all there is is itunes now. I miss talking to a real preson at a real record store   Roland_g303 Username: Roland_g303 Registered: 5-2007 Posted on Thursday, October 04, 2007 - 12:36 pm:    I just saw Genesis Saturday (9/29/07) in Cleveland. They were great and I think it's rediculous that people loathe Phil Collins. He's an incredible performer and songwriter. Give 'Duke' a listen or 'And Then There Were Three' if you don't believe me. I like how they developed instead of staying in the prog roots of the past. I know I'll get hammered for saying this, but I thought the show they put on in Cleveland was just as good as any performance they did 30 years ago. Tony Banks, Mike Rutherford and Phil Collins are top notch musicians and they're still just as good as they were 30+ years ago. Back on the topic of Steve Hackett...I love how he uses volume swells to emphasize his playing. He is so much different than any run of the mill player. He sure knows how to get some sweet tones out an old Gibson Les Paul. Patrick

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