Floral 310CW Acoustic

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Author Message Simon Posted on Monday, March 08, 2004 - 6:51 am:    Captain, My Captain, I've just recently bought a Japanese Ibanez floral series F310CW acoustic. Subsequently, I was most interested to read your recent discussions with PererP about the early 80s Japanese F300CW he bought. Mine's a 1984 bird, deep maroon/red wine in colour, and in very reasonable condition (only a few minor dents, and some yellowing of the edging that I believe was previously white), serial number 84072156H, and unlike Pete's, still has its floral pickguard. I ended up paying AUD$500 for mine, and also noted one exectly the same (but less yellowed) advertised on www.guitarcrazy.com.au that apparently sold for $1495(Ausie dollars)! I'm very happy with the sound of mine, but am left confused about the value of the guitar... What's the difference between the 300 and the 310? Have I bought well, or been ripped off? Has Pete scored a famous deal? Or has some sucker paid way too much to guitar crazy's? I'm very interested to hear your opinions. Simon Captainibanez (Captainibanez) Posted on Saturday, March 13, 2004 - 12:16 am:    G'day Simon, congrats on picking up yet another bargain. Both you and Pete have shopped well. The only real difference between the F300 & F310 models is the inlays on the neck. The F300 has a rectangular inlay with a gap running on a angle across from the top corner the bottom corner and the F310 has a soild rectangular mother of pearl inlay. Hope the info helps you. Captain Ibanez Simon Posted on Tuesday, March 16, 2004 - 4:06 am:    Thanks Captain, It's reasuring to have an expert in the Ibanez field confirm what I thought was a good buy. I haven't been an Ibanez player in the past, but am rapidly warming to them now. Simon Johannes Hacker Posted on Monday, July 26, 2004 - 4:23 am:    Hello Captain, just a couple of days ago I started searching for information on my Ibanez F310BK and could not find anything at all in the internet. Only thing I found was the F310CW (and information is very scarce on that guitar either). Do you know anything about that guitar at all? I bought it as a kid about 20 years ago (I think…) and at that time it was sold cheaper as a discontinued model (I payed 500 DM that time, ‘bout 250 US$, though it’s so long ago that conversion of the currencies may be wrong). I would be interested in about any information (how many have been built, who played it, are there any articles / tests available and so on) and of course also in the value of the guitar, because I have been planning to add some pickup to the guitar for live-performances / recording. I tinker with the idea of getting a b-band pick up built into the guitar but – well, I am not sure if I should have holes drilled into the guitar… can you give me any advice, tips, information? Thanks a lot. btw: I just came across this page and it really is a pleasure browsing there! Johannes Captainibanez (Captainibanez) Posted on Tuesday, July 27, 2004 - 10:48 pm:    Hi Johannes, are the much beloved Floral Series acoustics..stay tuned cause I will scan the catalouge of these and post them here tonight ....just at the office now. Captain Ibanez Munch (Munch) Posted on Wednesday, July 28, 2004 - 5:35 pm:    Hi Cameron, Catalog scans would be cool. I'd love to see some info on my floral - a F360BK. Cheers, Mark Captainibanez (Captainibanez) Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 8:00 am:    Well never let it be said that the O'l Captain dissapoints....here your scans...enjoy. Munch your scans are from the 1982 Acoustic cattledog and Johannes yours are from the 1983 catalogue. Captain Ibanez Yogi (Yogi) Posted on Thursday, July 29, 2004 - 4:49 pm:    Hi Cameron, cool stuff, thanks! Recently I found this very nice F-360BK. According to the serial number (I78****) it was made in September 1978, the first year of production if I'm correct. The odd thing about my guitar is that it has a 'Butterfly-pickguard'. I saw pics of another F-360BK that had the same PG as the F-310BK in your catalog scans. Did the style and shape of the pickguards change over the years of production or did they attach whatever they found in the box? Juergen Johannes Hacker Posted on Friday, August 20, 2004 - 5:48 am:    Hi Captain, thanks for the information on the 'nice floral guitar', I learned a lot about it concerning materials and stuff. By now I brought it to a luthier and have a b-band pickup built in. The talk with him brought me a bit down to earth again, as he said 'well, son, I would advice you to use the smallest b-band version, because the guitar is not really worth putting a lot of money in.' He told me, he would of course build in the pickup, since the guitar has 'personal value' for me, but its market value would not be more than, say 100$... Never mind, in between I found out that I own the guitar for almost exactly 20 years (thanks to my younger self for keeping a diary...), I love the rich and well-balanced sound (and I hope the b-band will capture that sound) and I would not give it away anyway. Next year or so I will have them put new frets in. By the way, the shop (BTM guitars in Nurenberg/Bavaria) is really very good but he was not exactly impressed by the ibanez. But don't ask what he said to me, when I told him about my '81 Daion Caribou... A bit snobby maybe, but still I can only recommend that shop. Best store I found for acoustic guitars in 25 years of playing. Thanks again, have a good time Johannes Etoby Username: Etoby Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 10:21 am:    @yogi ok its a bit late, but there are two "series" the Concord Series (the one you have) and the AW Series (the one the pics are about) thats why the PG is different this guy http://www.guitarmaniacs.de/html/users/stevieguitar/stevieguitar-acoustic-ibanez .shtml has an similar one, the inlay is already AW Series, the PG concord - the paper in the soundhole is an concord one. I think thats one of the guitars in the in between process - the change from the concord Hummingbird copies to the AW floral series. Yogi Username: Yogi Registered: 04-2003 Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 1:51 pm:    Thanks for the infos! Juergen Etoby Username: Etoby Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 2:22 pm:    You are welcome - I shoot an Artwood (AW) F-300CW yesterday and found this thread while I did some investigation you can find very much catalouge stuff here http://www.noahjames.com/vintagepage/acoustic.html Yogi Username: Yogi Registered: 04-2003 Posted on Monday, August 15, 2005 - 5:32 pm:    Congrats, I watched that auction closely and it looked like a very nice guitar, especially in the Cherry Wine finish! Actually my guitar and the one in the link you posted above seem to be transitions between the Concord and the Floral series. The Artwood is a separate series and your guitar is a Floral as well, hence the 'F' in the model designation. And yes, JD's site is always a great source... Juergen Etoby Username: Etoby Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Tuesday, August 16, 2005 - 7:36 am:    I though that the "artwood" is the main series (like the concord) and the other (floral,vintage) are only sub series. Whatever I will post some pics when the little treasure arrives. Etoby Username: Etoby Registered: 08-2005 Posted on Wednesday, September 21, 2005 - 4:54 pm:    I had some problems with my webspace, but here ist the promised galerie http://www.etoby.de/index.php?action=galerie&page=show&id=17

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