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Captainibanez (Captainibanez)
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 10:37 am:   

Ok Taxdodgers, freaks and geeks LMAO :)

Oh for goodness sake lighten up


So what gossip do you have on a former Ibanez endorsee'(s)...where are they now and why did they swap brands ?

I'll start it off.

Jennifer Batten: Wacko Jacko's lead guitarist and a GIT(Guitar Institute of Technology USA )legend in her own right,{yes Captain Ibanez still has a very large pic of Jen,sitting on the mixing console hanging on the wall of his house with her Custom USA 540 and her big blonde wig and no shoes on}. S440 player even had here own endorsee model..S540..late 80's early 90's...why ? Cause this wig wearing..and sometimes hat wearing, lovely young...yes Jen you still are and your O'l Cappy still loves you, used to love to twist S440 / S540 necks beyond repair...I bet JD can compare notes on this subject....and so on and so on.

So whats your story...I'll bet that this thread will open a can of worms.I have some more insider secrets to tell...but I need to keep them a bit more guarded...I hope you will understand...oh BTW did I tell you about EVH and the 5150 Mark 2...let me check with Hartley Peavey first..!

Captain Ibanez :)
Johns (Johns)
Posted on Friday, August 06, 2004 - 2:01 pm:   

Captain:

Cool thread!

Are you saying that Batten jumped shipped because the S440/540 necks were inferior?
Captainibanez (Captainibanez)
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 7:07 am:   

So the ledgend has it..that was the reason
Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar)
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 5:10 pm:   

Horseshit! Why would the necks on those particular models be any different from the rest of the line at the time? Methinks perhaps there was more money paid to endorse another brand. Didn't she go with Washburn after Ibanez...
Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar)
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 9:27 pm:   

Were there any "official" ties between Hoshino and Steve Miller?

What about Gerry Beckley? (America, Artwood Twin)

Phil Collen? (Def Leppard, DT555)
Ibanezfreak1960 (Ibanezfreak1960)
Posted on Saturday, August 07, 2004 - 10:10 pm:   

Denny Laine of McCartney and Wings?
Sixvsix (Sixvsix)
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 4:22 am:   

The list is endless so this thread could go on for years.

Nice one Cap.

six
Funkle (Funkle)
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 2:16 pm:   

OK, I'll bite,

This may be another can of worms, or one you want to stay away from. I've always wondered about this: Why did Frank Gambale leave Ibanez? (or what is the Ibanez side of the story)

This is taken from an interview with FG:

Q: "Why did you leave IBANEZ after so many years???"


A: "They were doing some things I considered unethical, especially after 13 years of loyal service. I walked out on the contract and as far as I'm concerned, I am now happier and way better off at Yamaha."

-Sven
Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar)
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 5:45 pm:   

When was this? Specifically, what year? Just curious.
Funkle (Funkle)
Posted on Sunday, August 08, 2004 - 9:08 pm:   

The interview is from 2000, just after he switched to Yamaha.
http://www.frankgambale.com/pages/brazil.html

-Sven
Mr_Roadstar (Mr_Roadstar)
Posted on Monday, August 09, 2004 - 12:04 am:   

Hmm, interesting. His name doesn't show up on the Artist list after 1998...
Zoner (Zoner)
Posted on Friday, August 13, 2004 - 1:50 pm:   

How about Vinnie Moore and Steve Lukather both being Music Man endorsers now? John Petrucci? And where is "J" from White Zombie these days? I always chuckle a bit about "endorsees", since there are so many these days. (Oooh, a Zakk Wylde distortion box! A Dimebag one too!!) Paul Stanley says he can play any guitar he wants, so he chooses Silvertone???? From Ibanez to Washburn then Silvertone. This would seem to be a case of following the almighty $$$ if you ask me. By the way, how do I get an Ibanez endorsement deal? I've been playing them for almost 25 years and what do I get for my effort on their behalf? What, someone would actually have to SEE and HEAR me playing them (other than my kids and pets?) I suppose a record deal would help too. O.K., back to the woodshed. Z
Funkle (Funkle)
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 5:23 pm:   

Hey Captain, are you going to leave us hanging on this one? :)

-Sven
Tim_Gueguen (Tim_Gueguen)
Posted on Saturday, August 14, 2004 - 11:58 pm:   

Lukather's Ibanez connection ended 20 years ago and didn't last very long anyways. He was associated with Valley Arts for a while afterwards.
Captainibanez (Captainibanez)
Posted on Sunday, August 15, 2004 - 5:48 am:   

Sven, I don't what he means as far as unethical goes,but I guess,there are a lot of "unsolved" issues regarding endorsee's. Paul Stanley is one that springs to mind. Still, who knows what goes on behind the scenes, as far as money,promotion,and the individual artists perception of themselves. Could this be our very own "X Files"....cue theme music.

Cameron
Jim_Donahue (Jim_Donahue)
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 12:25 am:   

Ok, Jim Donahue has no choice but to step in and say the truth about all the above people.

I worked with almost everyone one of them

They left not because of the guitars only three people did,
Steve Lukature, Sanley Jordon and John Ambacrombie,

All the rest left because they wanted Money and signature series guitars. We took people like Ricthie Kotzen, Blues Saracino, Vinnie Moore, Frank Gambali and about 30 other people that no one heard of, We seen their talent and made guitars for them, Then we promoted them in ads, they beacme big and companies like Yamaha and Washburn, Samick and Valley arts, Even Paul Stanley left (Not that we made him big) these companies promished them the world and Signature models, two guys that pissed me off were John 5 and Wes Borland from Limp Bizkit,

The reason was They came to us because we made the best guitars but they left because of money, And usually not because of the players its the greedy managers.

Ibanez only pays endorsers that have signature models, This is actually payment for the sales of the guitars. They get paid because its there design. Other Artists want the same level but how many signature models can you make? No one will buy them.

I can't say what's going on now because I left for the same greedy reason, I know Jennifer Batten had some issues with the necks, But she never brought it to my attention,It would have been taken care of.

In the begining it is the love of the instrument, In the end its cash.

Now back to my Greedy world, Oh yeah you are being charged 99 cents a minute to read this. It will show up on your Visa bill.
Jim_Donahue (Jim_Donahue)
Posted on Saturday, August 21, 2004 - 12:27 am:   

One more thing. From Jim Donahue

When Jeff Hassleberger left, many Players felt they lost their contact with Ibanez or at least the american guy, I know this had to do with Bob Weir,

JIm Donahue
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:07 pm:   

Need to settle an argument.

Has anyone got a picture they can post up of the "David Essex band" endorsement of the "Artist" range that was published in the mid 70's please.

I think there was a Scruggs and a 2676 in there amongst others.

six
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 12:51 pm:   

Six, here ya go......

David Ess.
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 2:39 pm:   

Right....My quest is to track down the bloke with the beard and see if he still has that 2676.

I bet he borrowed it for the photo shoot. I mean who would give a guitar like that away.

Shame the pic is in black n white. Hmmm, note the script logo on the Artist and the block logo on the Scruggs with Grover style keys too.

Thanks Freaky!

six
Ibanezfreak1960
Username: Ibanezfreak1960

Registered: 03-2004
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 6:53 pm:   

Thats seeems like a quest to find the Holy Grail! Good luck. That would be awesome if you do it. I like that mandolin there too.
Do you know where this photo was shot Six? And if there is a color version somewhere?
Fox
Username: Fox

Registered: 02-2003
Posted on Tuesday, April 05, 2005 - 7:07 pm:   

So, the elusive 2676... :-)
David Essex band? Toured Sweden in the 70īs end.. Have no idea what-so-ever if they came to Finland, maybe that 2676 (The Red One)got lost and is waiting there..abandoned..oh dear.
Sixvsix
Username: Sixvsix

Registered: 03-2002
Posted on Wednesday, April 06, 2005 - 1:01 pm:   

No idea where the pic was shot. I've seen it before but never in colour. Bet it was a sight to behold.

Billy Porter may know if we can get him back here

BILLY!!!!!!!

six

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